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hand mississippi senate bill says the state can't, quote, burden a person's right to exercise free religion, also under consideration at this point. joining me here onset to make sense of all of this is one of the big voices from the last few years of lgbt advocacy, roberta caplin argued edie windsor's case before the supreme court. i can only imagine how stressful it was. you had an entire movement riding on your shoulders. thank you for joining us and trying to make sense of the latest events. we see yesterday's news out of texas, similar rulings before that in virginia and kentucky. what do you think the future holds for those cases? what do you think the next thing to hit the supreme court might be? >> the windsor case came down at the end of june. since that decision there have been 15 court decisions in courts throughout the country in places like as you mentioned, kentucky, virginia, utah, oklahoma, all relying on windsor. i don't think that's surprising at all. windsor is about the core dignity of gay people and how they have the same type of dignity and should get the same respect
hand mississippi senate bill says the state can't, quote, burden a person's right to exercise free religion, also under consideration at this point. joining me here onset to make sense of all of this is one of the big voices from the last few years of lgbt advocacy, roberta caplin argued edie windsor's case before the supreme court. i can only imagine how stressful it was. you had an entire movement riding on your shoulders. thank you for joining us and trying to make sense of the latest...
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there's issues that are tough calls when religion is pitted against other values. a lot of folks look at this and found something else, sort of religion being misused, misinvoked. it's interesting to hear from your reporting that it's also happening online. howard bragman, thanks as always for your time. that does wrap up this hour of jansing & company. news nation with tamron has, is up next. in every bottle. ♪ because more of what you love is a beautiful thing. the new tide plus collection. what's your tide? i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and
there's issues that are tough calls when religion is pitted against other values. a lot of folks look at this and found something else, sort of religion being misused, misinvoked. it's interesting to hear from your reporting that it's also happening online. howard bragman, thanks as always for your time. that does wrap up this hour of jansing & company. news nation with tamron has, is up next. in every bottle. ♪ because more of what you love is a beautiful thing. the new tide plus...
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, whatever your religion is, although this is clearly meant to be a quote unquote, christian religion exemption, that you could refuse to serve anybody for any reason whatsoever. it doesn't have to just be gay and lesbian people. i think that's why you are seeing people like senator mccain and senator flake and even some of the arizona legislators who actually passed this bill, now that they have actually read it, maybe given it a little more thought than they did in the initial stages, they realize that this bill could be a whole lot more harmful to the state than they originally intended. so they have actually lobbied against governor brewer to veto the bill as well. i think the religious exemption is no different in my opinion than looking at refusing to serve blacks at lunch counters in the '60s. i find it hard to draw that distinction and actually have good conscience from a business perspective. >> it's a good discussion. thank you guys very much for coming on the program. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> colorado's newly legal pot market could soon rake in $1 billion a ye
, whatever your religion is, although this is clearly meant to be a quote unquote, christian religion exemption, that you could refuse to serve anybody for any reason whatsoever. it doesn't have to just be gay and lesbian people. i think that's why you are seeing people like senator mccain and senator flake and even some of the arizona legislators who actually passed this bill, now that they have actually read it, maybe given it a little more thought than they did in the initial stages, they...
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this bill, didn't hear one example of where someone had been discriminated against because of their religion so she didn't think the bill made accepts. your organization release add statement today that read "this legislation would give homosexuals more protection than they did under the current law". given nobody could come up with example of the discrimination, how could they have more protection under a law essentially created to allow people who didn't want to serve gays getting married with things like photography or wedding cakes? >> well, the irony is that arizona does not currently have sexual orientation listed as a protected category in either their employment nondiscrimination laws or public accommodation laws. so the current state of the law in arizona is that anybody can discriminate against gays at any time for any reason or for no reason whatsoever. this bill deals only with when a government action conflicts with a person's sincerely held religious belief. it requires the person asserting that right to be able to prove that this is motivated by the religious belief, that that
this bill, didn't hear one example of where someone had been discriminated against because of their religion so she didn't think the bill made accepts. your organization release add statement today that read "this legislation would give homosexuals more protection than they did under the current law". given nobody could come up with example of the discrimination, how could they have more protection under a law essentially created to allow people who didn't want to serve gays getting...
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"exercise of religion means the practice or observance of religion. it includes but is not limited to the ability to act or the refusal to act in a manner that is substantially motivated by one's sincerely held religious belief." sb 1062 and hb 376 and legislation in other states all share the same legal genetic code traceable back to a number of christian conservative special interest groups in the case of 1062, an outfit called the center for arizona policy, another called the alliance defending freedom didn't just push for the bill they also helped write for the bill much that's what representatives from both organizations tell us. neither organization would come on the program which is kind of hard to understand why. it's not like they're keeping it a secret. during the testimony surrounding 1062, an adf representative was perfectly open about his organization's push for religious restorations acts nation-wide. >> we have been heavily involved with both federal and state rfra. we provide testimony across the nation to states that are considering r
"exercise of religion means the practice or observance of religion. it includes but is not limited to the ability to act or the refusal to act in a manner that is substantially motivated by one's sincerely held religious belief." sb 1062 and hb 376 and legislation in other states all share the same legal genetic code traceable back to a number of christian conservative special interest groups in the case of 1062, an outfit called the center for arizona policy, another called the...
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. >> a lot of people claim it will cause discrimination based upon religion. i stopped at that until tonight. a muslim waiter serving up here walked up to the sheriff and wouldn't give in because he said i don't serve swine. >> i know you couldn't hear that, but you were there. you were live at first when he made the comment about senate bill 1062 which you have been talking a lot about this week. a lot of people thought that could create a situation that you thought was okay. in that comment, he talked about muslims and so i guess my question to you is, is it ever okay. given our country's history to throw race outer and use it. >> i was the top guy in south america and turkey and the mideast. i know a little about foreign countries. i know about racism. i'm not going to get into my family's background. he was just making some comments. i didn't tell him what to do. i got him five minutes before. governor perry was talking about me. a lot of people roasted me. why did they put it out yesterday? why not three days ago. why did they wait for the governor's deci
. >> a lot of people claim it will cause discrimination based upon religion. i stopped at that until tonight. a muslim waiter serving up here walked up to the sheriff and wouldn't give in because he said i don't serve swine. >> i know you couldn't hear that, but you were there. you were live at first when he made the comment about senate bill 1062 which you have been talking a lot about this week. a lot of people thought that could create a situation that you thought was okay. in...
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and what thomas jefferson did say about religion and what he did not say about religion. and why he wouldn't much like cpac banning atheists from their meeting this year. that's next. [ tires screech ] [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owner. [ car alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers. ♪ suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. so yit says here thatd sleep. increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disease. keep heart-healthy. live long. eat the 100% goodness of post shredded wheat. doctors recommend it. predibut, manufacturings a prettin the united states do. means advanced technology. we learned that technology allo
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here was this confluence of what would be race, religion, politics, the civil right struggle, and it exploded from there. >> it was a terrific birth of something great. ali is born. >> reporter: he literally was born in that moment, right? >> he was born in that moment. he was born. >> reporter: the next day, the new champ announced he was a black muslim. cassius clay had climbed into the ring; muhammad ali had climbed out. jim axelrod, cbs news, miami. >> pelley: and that's the cbs evening news for tonight. for all of us at cbs news all >>> your realtime captioner is linda macdonald. has learned.. the google bae is about to say 'bye to its current home in the bay. >>> now at 6:00, after all the mystery all the secrecy, tonight kpix 5 has learned the google barge is about to say good-bye to its current home in the bay. good evening, i'm elizabeth cook. >> i'm ken bastida. tonight, the richmond city council will consider offering google an invitation to use its docks for finishing construction on the google barge. new at 6:00, kpix 5's allen martin joins us to explain why the clock is
here was this confluence of what would be race, religion, politics, the civil right struggle, and it exploded from there. >> it was a terrific birth of something great. ali is born. >> reporter: he literally was born in that moment, right? >> he was born in that moment. he was born. >> reporter: the next day, the new champ announced he was a black muslim. cassius clay had climbed into the ring; muhammad ali had climbed out. jim axelrod, cbs news, miami. >> pelley:...
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race, gender and religion are but being gay is not. it wasn't protected before brewer vetoed the bill and it still isn't protected after the veto. the waiting photographer refused to fake pick kpurs of the gay couple and she was sued for it. the bill she vetoed was an effort to protect against the legal challenges that could result from discrimination. even with this bill gone there is no law on arizona's books that prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation. at least 12 states this year has issued legislation like arizona to extend the tide. senator mike lee of utah, conservative republican has introduced the marriage and religious freedom act. as they scramble topaz these laws, though, the courts seem to be moving in the opposite direction, even when it comes to red state america. just this week a federal judge ordered officials in the state of kentucky to start recognizing the marriage of same-sex couples that were performed outside of the state. and in texas, federal judge struck down that state's ban on same-sex marriage
race, gender and religion are but being gay is not. it wasn't protected before brewer vetoed the bill and it still isn't protected after the veto. the waiting photographer refused to fake pick kpurs of the gay couple and she was sued for it. the bill she vetoed was an effort to protect against the legal challenges that could result from discrimination. even with this bill gone there is no law on arizona's books that prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation. at least 12 states this...
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>> it's interesting to piece the two things together, you think about the forums in which religion has the most force. the courts are like the worst place in order to try to get a religious belief codified or encoded into law. because the way in which the supreme court. >> you have to have a secular purpose for the law. when religious right was on the offense, what it did was to use a ballot initiative. everyone goes into the voting booth and votes their religious convictions. you can't second guess that. now that those statutes have become to be struck down by the courts, giving us secular reasons. now that they're playing defense, what the religious right is doing is saying, let's rely on the free exercise clause in order to allow individuals to sort these claims in court. in some ways, arizona was the easiest case, she showed no evidence of religious discrimination against businesses. land of legal, gay rights organization told me today they had received almost 500 complaints over the past four years about lgbt discrimination in arizona. >> which is legal. >> it starts to feel like,
>> it's interesting to piece the two things together, you think about the forums in which religion has the most force. the courts are like the worst place in order to try to get a religious belief codified or encoded into law. because the way in which the supreme court. >> you have to have a secular purpose for the law. when religious right was on the offense, what it did was to use a ballot initiative. everyone goes into the voting booth and votes their religious convictions. you...
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it's a war on religion. >> american assault on religion. >> it's under attack. >> religious liberty is under attack. >> i don't understand the assault on christianity? >> unity and faith comes under fire. >> jon: why would religious people overreact to that [ male announcer ] when you switch to sprint's new framily plan, friends are like family, so who's gonna be in yours? let's get a sound guy and some roadies. [ male announcer ] but the more people you add, the lower the rate. how 'bout sketchy jeff? he gets billed separately, right? [ male announcer ] get up to 10 separate bills and everyone gets unlimited talk, text and one gig of data for as low as $25 a month each. cool. one more. we need more beard. ♪ that'll do. [ male announcer ] the framily plan from sprint. with a new price, new plan, and an all new network. visit a sprint store today. the inventor of great taste and less filling. the one that dared to say, maybe light beer should taste like beer. and for a limited time, miller lite is back in the original light can. ♪ miller lite is back in the original light can. it is
it's a war on religion. >> american assault on religion. >> it's under attack. >> religious liberty is under attack. >> i don't understand the assault on christianity? >> unity and faith comes under fire. >> jon: why would religious people overreact to that [ male announcer ] when you switch to sprint's new framily plan, friends are like family, so who's gonna be in yours? let's get a sound guy and some roadies. [ male announcer ] but the more people you add,...
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there's no basis for that in religion. we're talking about marriages, about those ceremonies that really when you participate in them as described in the package about being artistic, you're affirming of something that runs counter to your religious beliefs. >> you're saying i can't ban -- i have the bill in front of me two pages for me saying you can do this if the person's refusal to act is moat have aed by religious belief. you're saying to me if i'm -- someone could ban me from coming in if i was married to another woman but not if i was simply a lesbian and not married to the woman? it's gay marriage that's your problem? >> that is -- it sets in place this has to be a religious belief that is deeply held and you can't just come up and create a religion. you can't come up and say, i'm not going to serve somebody this food and that would be inconsistent with a christian world view. christians want to serve people. where the issue is, and this is what happened in new mexico, what drove this was that you had a christian p
there's no basis for that in religion. we're talking about marriages, about those ceremonies that really when you participate in them as described in the package about being artistic, you're affirming of something that runs counter to your religious beliefs. >> you're saying i can't ban -- i have the bill in front of me two pages for me saying you can do this if the person's refusal to act is moat have aed by religious belief. you're saying to me if i'm -- someone could ban me from coming...
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it's a war on religion. >> american assault on religion. >> it's under attack. >> religious liberty is under attack. >> i don't understand the assault on christianity? >> unity and faith comes under fire. >> jon: why would religious people overreact to that [ male announcer ] when you switch to sprint's new framily plan, friends are like family, so who's gonna be in yours? how about a few facebook friends? [ male announcer ] but the more people you add, the lower the rate. then add my work group. [ male announcer ] add up to 10 people, and everyone gets unlimited talk, text and one gig of data for as low as $25 a month each. great! who else you got? hi, mom! hi, honey! i brought rubina. hi, rubina! uh, are the bills separate? [ male announcer ] all the bills are separate. oh, hi, my love. hi! [ laughs ] [ male announcer ] the framily plan from sprint, with a new price, new plan, and an all new network. visit a sprint store today. turn to bud light platinum, the next generation of smooth. brewed with top-shelf ingredients for a bold, slightly sweet finish. ♪ yeah you always make me go
it's a war on religion. >> american assault on religion. >> it's under attack. >> religious liberty is under attack. >> i don't understand the assault on christianity? >> unity and faith comes under fire. >> jon: why would religious people overreact to that [ male announcer ] when you switch to sprint's new framily plan, friends are like family, so who's gonna be in yours? how about a few facebook friends? [ male announcer ] but the more people you add, the...
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distinct provision where they allow people and in some cases like the case in arizona, businesses to use religion as a defense in a private lawsuit. so to give you an example of how that might play out, you know, let's say you live in a state where it's illegal to fire someone because they're gay. now, if one of these bills passes, that company could turn around and say, oh, hey, i think homosexuality is a sin, therefore i'm going to fire you and i don't need to abide by this law. so, you know, that lawsuit provision is a big deal. >> i know in some of the cases, in some of the states where they've been considering this, the lawsuit provision works in such a way not only can you not sue somebody for discriminating against you, but if you do, you have to pay their legal fees as well as your own so it's almost a punishment for even complaining about being discriminated against. it's fascinating stuff and fast-moves story. dana liebelson, reporter for "mother jones." nice to see you. >> thanks for having any. >>> the federal prosecutor's investigation of the george washington bridge scandal in chris
distinct provision where they allow people and in some cases like the case in arizona, businesses to use religion as a defense in a private lawsuit. so to give you an example of how that might play out, you know, let's say you live in a state where it's illegal to fire someone because they're gay. now, if one of these bills passes, that company could turn around and say, oh, hey, i think homosexuality is a sin, therefore i'm going to fire you and i don't need to abide by this law. so, you know,...
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important to note that similar laws have been struck down in new mexico and we respect the freedom of religion, it cannot be used for a exkoos for individuals to treat residence of that state whether it is [inaudible] based upon some perceived identification and treating them as inferior based on their religious beliefs mpt 1062 is a dangerous precedent [inaudible] so long as they claim office under their religious beliefs. i want to note that since the state legislator enacted sb 1062 a nov civil rights leader and officials and businesses and mbs of different parts of the industry including the torest of industry flout the country have come out against 106 fwo and urged governor [inaudible] in fact arizona senators bob [inaudible] peerpal that were in support of the bill sent letter to the senate and governor urgeer her not to sign this bill. as the mayor of [inaudible] i think it is important for us in san francisco, a sitee that has lodge been at the for front of protecting the rights of all people and special the rights of [inaudible] we take a clear stance against this legislation and thi
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the monotheistic religions of the world all push its members to fight against poverty. but right now the united states of america, the rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting what the rich don't take with them. >> congressman emanuel cleaver and sister simone campbell, i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> good to be here. >>> still ahead, a top democrat calls out republicans for their dependence on billionaire koch brothers. >>> but first, new surveillance video of a deadly shooting inside a walmart. one man is dead and the shooter has not been arrested. we'll talk about it next. covert ops? double agents? spy thriller? you don't know "aarp" thanks to the aarp tek program, this guy is spying on his new grandson. aarp tek gets people better connected to technology, to better connect with each other. with social media, digital devices and apps. if you don't think "hashtag love dad" when you think aarp, then you don't know "aarp" find more surprising possibilities and get to know us at aarp.org/poss
the monotheistic religions of the world all push its members to fight against poverty. but right now the united states of america, the rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting what the rich don't take with them. >> congressman emanuel cleaver and sister simone campbell, i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> good to be here. >>> still ahead, a top democrat calls out republicans for their...
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. >>> sure, politics played a part in arizona's battle of religion, discrimination and pay rights, but big businessmen may have really tipped the scales. >>> join the club! seriously, clubs for young job seekers. plus google glass, wearable art for tech, i'm david shuster in for ali velshi, this is "real money." this is "real money" and you are the most important part of show so join our live conversations for the next half our on twitt twitter,@aj realmoney. >>> five states have similar scaled religious predom bills before their legislatures like the law vetoed in arizona. about the potential economic consequences of moving forward, already there are 18 states including arizona with laws chmed by religious freedom activists that mirror a federal law protecting a person's right to exercise his religion. but the legislation in arizona would have gone further, let owners of businesses refuse service, against gays and other marginalized groups. think muslims and mormons. jan brewer said her legislation went too far. but business big interests like chamber of commerce and companies called
. >>> sure, politics played a part in arizona's battle of religion, discrimination and pay rights, but big businessmen may have really tipped the scales. >>> join the club! seriously, clubs for young job seekers. plus google glass, wearable art for tech, i'm david shuster in for ali velshi, this is "real money." this is "real money" and you are the most important part of show so join our live conversations for the next half our on twitt twitter,@aj...
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in the "crossfire," neera tanden, who is against arizona's freedom of religion bill, and peter sprigg, who supports it. what should government do if religious freedom lets some people discriminate? tonight on "crossfire." >> welcome to "crossfire." i'm van jones on the left. >> imt s.e. cupp on the right. guests on opposite sides of arizona's religious freedom bill. both major league baseball and the nfl are playing intense pressure on governor jan brewer tonight. mlb will neither support for tolerate any word, attitudes or actions that imperil the inclusive communities that we have strived to foster within our game. there's word that the nfl might move the super bowl out of arizona. look, i'm a republican, i'm for religious liberty, i am not for this bill. i think it goes too far. but it does raise important questions, not just about religious freedom, but market freedom. and the government should not compel business owners to provide services to everyone no matter what. and if you think i'm wrong, i bet i can change your mind tonight. >> you're pretty persuasive, but you're up again
in the "crossfire," neera tanden, who is against arizona's freedom of religion bill, and peter sprigg, who supports it. what should government do if religious freedom lets some people discriminate? tonight on "crossfire." >> welcome to "crossfire." i'm van jones on the left. >> imt s.e. cupp on the right. guests on opposite sides of arizona's religious freedom bill. both major league baseball and the nfl are playing intense pressure on governor jan...
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it's a war on religion. >> american assault on religion. >> it's under attack. >> religious liberty is under attack. >> i don't understand the assault on christianity? >> unity and faith comes under fire. >> jon: why would religious people overreact to that constant barrage of aapoc [ male announcer ] only the best make applebee's 2 for $20 menu. it's on. in this corner, the newcomer citrus lime sirloin! and in this corner, chicken & shrimp tequila tango! 2 of the best, now on applebee's famous 2 for $20 menu. applebee's. see you tomorrow. now on applebee's famous 2 for $20 menu. yo,move fast fruit flavor,fe, watermelon, blue razz green apple. your taste buds dancing. it's the jolly rancher, we make it happen. untamed fruit flavor. jolly rancher. don't move i say! don't move! [ indistinct shouting ] you? yankee? me? yeah, yeah. no one get hurt if you don't play no game. ♪ look at me. sure. look at me sure. i'm the captain now. ♪ ♪ by taking our work home with us. the authority in computers? and today we're beta testing our new exclusive collection of 2-in-1s, which have the full
it's a war on religion. >> american assault on religion. >> it's under attack. >> religious liberty is under attack. >> i don't understand the assault on christianity? >> unity and faith comes under fire. >> jon: why would religious people overreact to that constant barrage of aapoc [ male announcer ] only the best make applebee's 2 for $20 menu. it's on. in this corner, the newcomer citrus lime sirloin! and in this corner, chicken & shrimp tequila tango!...
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is religion not by his wording also self-professed? >>> finally, "12 years a slave "got the oscar on sunday night. while rush limbaugh didn't actually see the movie, he still has a theory explaining why it won. >> there is no way that movie was not going to win. if it was the only thing that movie won, it was going to be win best picture there was no way. it didn't matter if it was good or bad. i haven't seen it. it was going to win. it had the magic word in the title, "slave." >> slavery. hmm. that's rush limbaugh. isn't he perfect? >>> up next, democrats have an advantage over republicans on some of the biggest issues around. look at the polls. so why are they not -- these advantages not translating into a lead in the upcoming midterm elections? the polls don't match, but the issues now only eight months away, these elections. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the all-new 2014 lexus is. this is your move. >>> welcome back to "hardball." it's hard to say trust me when you threaten t
is religion not by his wording also self-professed? >>> finally, "12 years a slave "got the oscar on sunday night. while rush limbaugh didn't actually see the movie, he still has a theory explaining why it won. >> there is no way that movie was not going to win. if it was the only thing that movie won, it was going to be win best picture there was no way. it didn't matter if it was good or bad. i haven't seen it. it was going to win. it had the magic word in the title,...
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we both discussed with her if she could come up with one single example of discrimination based on religion in arizona that people of faith have suffered through. she couldn't come up with one other than hypotheticals that maybe might happen. but she had no actual example of it actually having occurred. that's interesting because governor brewer specifically pointed that out. i want to play some of that exchange we had with nancy barta, one of the authors of sb 1062. let's listen. >> senator, do you have any actual example of someone in arizona being forced to do something against their religious beliefs? >> well, in arizona it could be happening all the time, yes. >> do you have an actual example? >> well, surely. people may be being asked to -- >> i mean where it's actually happened. >> well, obviously if people aren't bringing it to court we don't know about it at this point. but we do know that without this law, people would not be able to defend themselves in court. >> but again, you can't name actually one example where this has happened. because people opposed to this say look, this
we both discussed with her if she could come up with one single example of discrimination based on religion in arizona that people of faith have suffered through. she couldn't come up with one other than hypotheticals that maybe might happen. but she had no actual example of it actually having occurred. that's interesting because governor brewer specifically pointed that out. i want to play some of that exchange we had with nancy barta, one of the authors of sb 1062. let's listen. >>...
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. >> a day after the arizona legislature passed a hotly debated religion bill, business leaders across the state are calling on governor jan brewer to veto the proposed law or risk damaging the state's image and its economic recovery. >> opponents now include the arizona chamber of commerce, the arizona super bowl host committee, apple which has major interests in this state, and both americans airlines and mare rot. now, as local and national businesses are making their voices heard, politicians both in and outside of arizona are pushing to distance themselves from the law. three senators from arizona who voted for the bill are now, actually, get this, are urging the governor to veto it. and state senator steve pierce told chris hayes last night, it was some sort of crazy mixup. >> i believe it was going to be slowed down, wasn't going to come to the floor as soon as it did. i can tell you there's a number of us that we were terxting eac other madly, do we go with it, do we not? so we made a mistake. that's about all i can tell you is we went the wrong way. >> yes. they went the wrong
. >> a day after the arizona legislature passed a hotly debated religion bill, business leaders across the state are calling on governor jan brewer to veto the proposed law or risk damaging the state's image and its economic recovery. >> opponents now include the arizona chamber of commerce, the arizona super bowl host committee, apple which has major interests in this state, and both americans airlines and mare rot. now, as local and national businesses are making their voices...
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and what thomas jefferson did say about religion and what he did not say about religion. and why he wouldn't much like cpac banning atheists from their meeting this year. that's next. this is interesting. it says here that a woman's sex drive increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disease. it seems that 80 is the new 18. grannies, bless your heart, you are bringing sexy back! eat up. keep heart-healthy. live long. for a healthy heart, eat the 100% natural whole grain goodness of post shredded wheat. doctors recommend it. [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owner. [ car alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers. ♪ i'm saving a ton of time by posting them to my wall. oh, i like that one. it's so quick! it's just like my car insurance. i saved 15% in just 15 minutes. i saved more than that in half
and what thomas jefferson did say about religion and what he did not say about religion. and why he wouldn't much like cpac banning atheists from their meeting this year. that's next. this is interesting. it says here that a woman's sex drive increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disease. it seems that 80 is the new 18. grannies, bless your heart, you are bringing sexy back! eat up. keep heart-healthy. live long. for a healthy heart, eat the 100% natural whole grain...
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how religion brought them together, coming up. ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines" so i got the new nokia lumia icon. it's got 1080p video, three times zoom, and a twenty-megapixel sensor. it's got the brightest display, so i can see what i'm shooting -- even outdoors, and 4 mics that capture incredible sound. plus, it has apps like vine -- and free cloud storage. my new lumia icon is so great, even our wipeouts look amazing. ♪ honestly, i want to see you be brave ♪ ♪ they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children lauing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where th almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. i ke prilosec otc each morni for m
how religion brought them together, coming up. ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines" so i got the new nokia lumia icon. it's got 1080p video, three times zoom, and a twenty-megapixel sensor. it's got the brightest display, so i can see what i'm shooting -- even outdoors, and 4 mics that capture incredible sound. plus, it has apps like vine -- and free cloud storage. my new lumia icon is so great, even our wipeouts look...
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serving someone coffee is not a burden on your religion. the cases are bakers, florists, photographers who say, evangelical christians or catholics who say i don't have any problem with gay people, but i don't want to participate in a gay wedding because i have conscientious objections to it. they have been reported for sanctions or fines. that is wrong. that is what is trying to be addressed here. >> one of the reasons it's so important to draw these lines is we have some cases right now in the supreme court which are saying that people who are business owners, not religious institutions and not religiously-affiliated institutions like catholic hospitals, for instance, but business owners saying we don't have to provide contraceptive coverage. we disagree with it. >> let me brinin the congressman. do you think most of the house republican colleagues were relieved by the veto? >> what's interesting about this. as a federal guy, i don't get involved in other states i don't live in. >> good luck. >> yeah, it always works out. but it's the int
serving someone coffee is not a burden on your religion. the cases are bakers, florists, photographers who say, evangelical christians or catholics who say i don't have any problem with gay people, but i don't want to participate in a gay wedding because i have conscientious objections to it. they have been reported for sanctions or fines. that is wrong. that is what is trying to be addressed here. >> one of the reasons it's so important to draw these lines is we have some cases right now...
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by religious freedom activists that mirror a federal law protecting a person's right to exercise his religion. but the legislation in arizona would have gone further, let owners of businesses refuse service, against gays and other marginalized groups. think muslims and mormons. jan brewer said her legislation went too far. but business big interests like chamber of commerce and companies called marriott, american airlines, apple and petsmart. in 1994 the national football league moved the super bowl out of arizona when it refused to make martin luther king a national holiday in their state. this week, the nfl threatened to take next year's super bowl out of the grand canyon state again. the next battle ground appears to be georgia where lawmakers are considering legislation similar to arizona's already big business is must mustering. sexual orientation are never mentioned in these bills. atlanta-based american airlines, say, mutual respect and dignity, the 165 million customers we serve every year. delta strongly post office these measures and we join the business community and urging state o
by religious freedom activists that mirror a federal law protecting a person's right to exercise his religion. but the legislation in arizona would have gone further, let owners of businesses refuse service, against gays and other marginalized groups. think muslims and mormons. jan brewer said her legislation went too far. but business big interests like chamber of commerce and companies called marriott, american airlines, apple and petsmart. in 1994 the national football league moved the super...
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in terms of what impacted you as a person and your religion, being around all this quite severe religion i guess in many way, i've just interviewed roma downey and mark burnett about "the son of god" movie, "the bible, series, reinvigorating, if you like, religion into american life again. what did it do to you this experience? did it give you a renewed and stronger faith or did it damage your faith? >> oh, that is so interesting. no one's put a question like that. first of all, i would say that i'm a recovering catholic. and that's no disrespect to the catholic church. >> i get it. anybody who reads the book will understand what you mean. >> deep recovery. and i think it's the biggest thing that i got from it is guilt. the guilt is ridiculous. i feel bad about everything. and that's reflected in the book as well. but also just damnation and fire and the devil and hell. that was horrible to deal with as a child. it was just so over the top. and i still can walk into a church and recite the whole mass. and it's really scary how ingrained. >> do you pray regularly? >> i do pray. isn't that
in terms of what impacted you as a person and your religion, being around all this quite severe religion i guess in many way, i've just interviewed roma downey and mark burnett about "the son of god" movie, "the bible, series, reinvigorating, if you like, religion into american life again. what did it do to you this experience? did it give you a renewed and stronger faith or did it damage your faith? >> oh, that is so interesting. no one's put a question like that. first of...
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someone on the basis of the fact that they are homosexual and their religion forbids homosexuality, their sincere about it. it's a sincere belief they should be able to do that. that's an order of magnitude greater than the legal right to deny services to a gay wedding where religion is clearly involved in the sacriment of marriage. >> we hear from folks on the religious right who say they feel religion is under attack. >> i look at this bill and wonder whether this is a reaction, an over reaction to people who feel under attack on this score. and in the end, you know, they may have struck back in a way that's deeply offensive to many, and potentially dangerous to folks who are gay and lesbians who need medical services and other services denied potentially. >> that's right, and i think it's a little hard to tell, with the bill not having been signed and put into effect and tested as it would be in the courts, exactly how the bill would play out. if in fact as the critics claim, it would go so far as to allow a christian doctor who was deeply conservative in his religious views to deny tr
someone on the basis of the fact that they are homosexual and their religion forbids homosexuality, their sincere about it. it's a sincere belief they should be able to do that. that's an order of magnitude greater than the legal right to deny services to a gay wedding where religion is clearly involved in the sacriment of marriage. >> we hear from folks on the religious right who say they feel religion is under attack. >> i look at this bill and wonder whether this is a reaction,...
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allows people to have their constitutional rights under the first amendment to freely exercise their religion not just in the synagogue but in the church, but seven days a week and in their personal lives and business. >> what happens if that clashes with another person's beliefs and position? >> that is always what we have to wrestle with in our society is whether two things can coexist in the same space. >> at the state capitol, the pressure mounted on a governor who has made controversial decisions before to veto the bill. those organizing next year super bowl here called for a detailed. companies including apple who are bringing a new factory in 2000 jobs to the state. for business first governor, the pressure was overwhelming. could result in unintended and negative consequences. after weighing all of the arguments i have vetoed senate bill 1062. >> opponents on the decision as a victory for gay rights. >> the governor did the right thing. i still see a lot of criticism out there that the governor waited too long, criticisms that the legislature should have never brought this in the firs
allows people to have their constitutional rights under the first amendment to freely exercise their religion not just in the synagogue but in the church, but seven days a week and in their personal lives and business. >> what happens if that clashes with another person's beliefs and position? >> that is always what we have to wrestle with in our society is whether two things can coexist in the same space. >> at the state capitol, the pressure mounted on a governor who has...
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we hear from folks on the religious right they say they feel religion is under attack i look at the bill and wonder whether this is a reaction, an overreaction, to people who feel under attack on this score, and in, in the end, you know, they may have thrust back in a way that is deeply offensive in a way to many and dangerous to folks who are -- needing medical services being denied. >> well, that is right. and i think it's a little hard to tell with the bill not having been signed and put into affect and tested, it was a would be in the courts. exactly how the bill would play out f it's fact it would go so far as to allow christian doctor deeply conservative in his views to deny treatment it's hard to imagine this, but i suppose it's possible, if that is the case it seems to be a big huge overreach. but i, look. this goes to a larger question. it's do people of faith feel they're rights and sensibilities are under assault? but i don't think we're far from the most where someone will propose in congress the public accommodation section of the civil rights act of 1964 would be amended to
we hear from folks on the religious right they say they feel religion is under attack i look at the bill and wonder whether this is a reaction, an overreaction, to people who feel under attack on this score, and in, in the end, you know, they may have thrust back in a way that is deeply offensive in a way to many and dangerous to folks who are -- needing medical services being denied. >> well, that is right. and i think it's a little hard to tell with the bill not having been signed and...
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. >> in arizona, unlike other states, while there are protections based on rarks religion -- race, religion, national origin, there's none on sexual orientation. so already a business can say, "i don't serve gays", this is deflated. does it grant protection for gays or businesses to go ahead and discriminate. i think what it has done is shined the light on the fact that arizona is a state that does not offer protection for gays. folks rallied around that saying "why not?" >> how has it hurt the state? >> arizona had a history of problems, whether it's pr problems or not. after the governor of arizona cancelled a holiday for reverent mart mart martin luther king, a lot pulled out. if it does not change the laws, it underscores the question of does arizona think of itself as a friendly state. does it see itself as a place welcoming to everyone. for a company like apple. apple decided to build a plant here with 1200 employees. they are a gay-friendly company. they may think "do we want to located a plant where some. our employees may not feel welcome" >> what does it say about the state legisl
. >> in arizona, unlike other states, while there are protections based on rarks religion -- race, religion, national origin, there's none on sexual orientation. so already a business can say, "i don't serve gays", this is deflated. does it grant protection for gays or businesses to go ahead and discriminate. i think what it has done is shined the light on the fact that arizona is a state that does not offer protection for gays. folks rallied around that saying "why...
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that is sort of the old school, old time religion message. whatever societal problems you think are holding you back, it's not an excuse for you to is a advance. it really irritates a lot of young black men who say you're blaming the victim and you're saying you're putting all the burden on them to ignore all of these social ills that are real and not dealing with the social ills themselves. it's something that the president's critics don't like. but the interesting thing about president obama is that he knows that. he is actively engaging those critics. and he is pushing back. and he really wants them to agree with him that this is the right message to send to young black men. and you get the sense that this is a president who doesn't want to leave office not having given this message to young men, not having been a physical, living example of what he wants them to aspire to. he is a this aspirational politics is his core. that's his kansas grandmother talking to him. his upbringing with by his grandparents is what you hear. and he really do
that is sort of the old school, old time religion message. whatever societal problems you think are holding you back, it's not an excuse for you to is a advance. it really irritates a lot of young black men who say you're blaming the victim and you're saying you're putting all the burden on them to ignore all of these social ills that are real and not dealing with the social ills themselves. it's something that the president's critics don't like. but the interesting thing about president obama...
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barred the government from in the phrase of the law substantially burdenening somebody's exercise of religion. arizona is one of many that has laws like that. so what was different about this arizona law is that it would have expanded the law to apply not just to individuals but to businesss that get sued by someone in a private lawsuit, someone that they refuse to serve and what got the sponsors of the bill concerned was a decision last year in neighboring new mexico when the supreme court there ruled against a be queer key photographers who refused to photograph the ceremony of two women. and this is exactly at the heart of the challenge to the obamacare law that the supreme court will hear next month. >> gwen rattled off this week's different developments. you've got fights in state houses and in courthouses. what else is going on? >> a texas judge became the latest to strike down a ban on same sex marriage saying that it's -- there's no good reason to do that. gwen: how many states have done that? >> in terms of court action, six or seven. we have 17 states in which same sex marriage is a
barred the government from in the phrase of the law substantially burdenening somebody's exercise of religion. arizona is one of many that has laws like that. so what was different about this arizona law is that it would have expanded the law to apply not just to individuals but to businesss that get sued by someone in a private lawsuit, someone that they refuse to serve and what got the sponsors of the bill concerned was a decision last year in neighboring new mexico when the supreme court...
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. >> the governor vetoed so it denied service to gays and lesbians for religions. it was supposed to be a safeguard tore religion but it is too divisive. >> i believe the bill has the potential th potential to cause more problems than solve problems. >> the bill drew vocal criticism from civic leaders business interests and state economic groups. >>> two members of former new england patriot eric hernandez's entourage is due in court today. hernandez fiancee was indicted on charges of perjury. she has treated not guilty. carlos or tease wegon ortiz wi appear today. he pleaded not guilty to accessory charges. hernandez is awaiting trial after also pleading not guilty. >> the road rage assault case will be back in court today. the detective is scheduled for a control hearing in new york. he's pleaded not guilty to gang assault charges in connection with a man being pulled from his suv and beaten in front of his family. >>> there will be no bags allowed at the boston marathon this year. officers are stepping up security after last year's deadly bombing. i a attackers
. >> the governor vetoed so it denied service to gays and lesbians for religions. it was supposed to be a safeguard tore religion but it is too divisive. >> i believe the bill has the potential th potential to cause more problems than solve problems. >> the bill drew vocal criticism from civic leaders business interests and state economic groups. >>> two members of former new england patriot eric hernandez's entourage is due in court today. hernandez fiancee was...
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the star of a brand-new hit tv show explained how religion actually brought them together. "hannity" starts right here, right now. >> bombhell testimony on capitol hill from a left-leaning law professor who says that thanks to obama's actions, we are at a constitutional tipping point. >> the president has created an atmosphere, the rate at which the executive power is being concentrated in our system is accelerating. and frankly i am very alarmed by the implications of that aggregation of power. i believe we are now at a constitutional tipping point in our system. it is a dangerous point for our system to be in. and i believe that your response has to given before this president leaves office. no one in our system goes it alone. >> and joining me now to explain exactly what he meant is the man you just heard from, george washington university law professor, jonathan turley. professor, welcome back, good to see you. >> thank you very much, sean. >> a very serious charge. you packed a lot in there. you do not agree with me on a lot of political issues but you may agree with m
the star of a brand-new hit tv show explained how religion actually brought them together. "hannity" starts right here, right now. >> bombhell testimony on capitol hill from a left-leaning law professor who says that thanks to obama's actions, we are at a constitutional tipping point. >> the president has created an atmosphere, the rate at which the executive power is being concentrated in our system is accelerating. and frankly i am very alarmed by the implications of...
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an attack in so far as those who believe in when you're protecting your right to, a, practice your religion and not engage in a contract. >> both of arizona's u.s. senators along with ceos of apple and american airlines are urging governor brewer to veto the bill. she has rejected similar legislation in the past. she has until friday to decide this bill's fate. >>> all right ball -- i called you ball. paul! the forecast is rolling! the rain is coming. >> that's a segue. we saved ourselves. [ laughter ] >> we have rain coming regardless of what -- don't worry about my name. worry about the weather, which is changing. 80 degrees close to it yesterday. by this time tomorrow, your loved ones will be caught in an epic drive home. if you can work from home or leave work early tomorrow, do it because it is going to be a rough evening commute tomorrow. today we saw an increase in clouds and also a decrease in temperature as a southerly wind took over. that's a cooler flow of air for us. san francisco 50s right now. santa rosa 55. oakland and san jose 61. nothing on the radar yet. by this time tomor
an attack in so far as those who believe in when you're protecting your right to, a, practice your religion and not engage in a contract. >> both of arizona's u.s. senators along with ceos of apple and american airlines are urging governor brewer to veto the bill. she has rejected similar legislation in the past. she has until friday to decide this bill's fate. >>> all right ball -- i called you ball. paul! the forecast is rolling! the rain is coming. >> that's a segue. we...